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Thursday, August 2, 2007

'John' Exiled to Cincinnati

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A source inside HBO, who wished to remain anonymous, has informed TV Blogger that HBO will not pick up John From Cincinnati for a second season.

A second individual, who works on the show itself, also suggested that that John will not be back. "I don't know for sure, but from what I've heard, the grape vine and such, we won't be back" for another season.

The show has struggled since its debut, garnering mixed reviews and drowning in the ratings. That it's the most confusing show in television history can't have helped. My sincere hope is that HBO brass pushes Milch into bringing back Deadwood.

The season one (series) finale airs August 12th.

More John From Cincinnati and Deadwood coverage from TV Blogger

Keywords: John From Cincinnati, Cancellation, Canceled, Cancel, Renewed, Renewal, Pick Up, HBO, David Milch, Deadwood

87 comments:

dragasslag said...

Here here. Bring back Deadwood. I tried to like JFC. It was a terrible show.

Anonymous said...

al bundy was wrong last night. al swearengen could kill john!

csutton-3 said...

My sincere hope is that this is total BS.

It's really not that confusing man. F'd up family, some very intriguing characters, and one really, really, intriguing character who keeps you guessing. Have you ever heard of this one show called Lost? It's pretty popular and they once had a Polar Bear appear on a tropical Island. No explanation....Oh, they also had a mysterious black smoke-like monster that kept appearing....oh just forget it...

Lucrat said...

THANK F-ING GOD!

Bring back Deadwood!!

bella2324 said...

I really do hope that they will now make good on their promise w/ the Deadwood movies. It just blows my mind that they would even hesitate to bring back such a fabulous show, especially as how so much of the cast seems so eager to come back to Deadwood. So I'm still hoping!

As for JFC -- I never watched a full episode. I caught about 10 minutes of it (not sure what ep it was) and a bunch of characters were outside (the highlight being seeing Dayton Callie and Garret Dillahunt in the same scene) and the main character was just spouting what seemed like nonsense "The fire is big. The lion is big. The hat is big." He just kept going on and on. I was like "Are you kidding me?" I couldn't stand it anymore, so I shut it off. If that's what the show was like all the time, I can see why it's being canceled.

Anonymous said...

To bella2324:

Thanks for giving it a fair and thoughtful shot. Remind me to come over and watch you do something for two minutes and make up my mind about who and what you are.

nevaforgotten said...

Deadwood is old and BORING and im glad its DEAD.. John From Cincinnati is by far a better show.. and plus they'd bring back Sopranos befor Gaywood

Anonymous said...

John from Cincinnati is like bad anime.

It throws out a bunch of metaphysical, quasi-philosophical dialogue in an attempt to be "deep" and intelligent. In reality it's neither.

It a shown written by and appealing to people who think they're wordly and intelligent when in actuality they are not. Said people don't understant that simply because something sounds confusing or complex doesn't actually make it particlarly deep or intelligent.

Wayne said...

Thank God Anonymous set me straight. As one of JFC's writers, I've been bumbling through life in the mistaken belief that "I'm worldly and intelligent." Now I guess I know better!

puck said...

Hey blogger . . . out of curiosity, how can you be sure itt's been cancelled. I haven't seen it anywhere else on the web.

DharmaMike said...

This is disappointing news. Deadwood lost its appeal for me in the anticlimactic final season and JFC was a real breath of fresh air.

Wayne, if you're truly a writer for the show, I wish you luck and thank you for the effort.

Anonymous said...

noooo!! this can't be true....jfc may take a little longer to get hooked to, but once you do you see how amazing it is. this is the best show on tv.

Anonymous said...

Wayne.

I know that you need the money but I seriously hope that your writing credit for JFC doesn't count against you when you go for your next job.

"You hurt my feelings Grams."

Yeah man great writing.

I also notice how you don't DENY the fact that it was cancelled.

Wayne said...

I wrote Episode 9 (as much as anyone "writes" an episode while working for David Milch).

I didn't deny that JFC's been canceled because I don't know that it's, as you say, a FACT; I've heard this rumor only from the same unconfirmed source as the rest of you. Nobody tells me nothin'.

Finally, as quaint as it may seem to the show's critics, I'm quite proud of my association with this project.

Anonymous said...

Excellent TV show...figures something I'd like would be fubard due to mogul magic

jerseytb/tom said...

Huge Jake and Austin fan here. So I was certainly rooting for the show to do well. Only saw the first epidode and I have never heard the F word thrown around so much. In reality do people actually use that word that much. No prude here but.............

Austin is adorable!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Wayne, the show rocks..you know that. Screw these deadwood hags.

nadum said...

It wasn't my intent to provoke a Deadwood/John war. I'm just reporting the news with a little footnote about my wish to see Deadwood rise from the ashes.

If there was a war though, Swearengen would slit John's throat and feed him to Wu's pigs before John could parrot the word "cocksucker."

Anonymous said...

Or John could trade verbal garbs with Jewel.

Anonymous said...

I agree with Tom - the swearing was so overdone. Everyone angry all the time. This would have been okay for some characters, but all characters all the time was too much. Too bad becuase otherwise it was an intriguing show. Loved John.

Anonymous said...

Wayne, great show. Have some scripts you could help me out with if you got connections. Great Scripts!!

Rex Racer said...

Was a big fan of Deadwood, but felt it started to come unglued in the second season. Nonetheless, it would have been interesting to watch it continue its transformation from a lawless frontier outpost to a "civilized" town during America's Westward expansion.

Regarding "John," I never quite recovered from the pilot, although I've watched a few more episodes. I kind of feel a pilot is like a first date. You don't necessarily have to fall in love from the gitgo, but you want to at least have a nice time and look forward to getting together again.

While I found the character of John intriguing, and the kid is sweet, most everyone else is running around cursing up a storm and screaming at each other. It got tiresome very, very quickly.

Anonymous said...

It seems like HBO played the season finale preview with the voiceover 'all is revealed', so if JFC is a one season show (and what a great show, btw, and good job Wayne if you're still reading) I just hope we receive an ending that at least reveals what exactly John is.

From the middle of the season the storyline really appeared like it was to be done over one year and one year only, so I at least hope JFC is able to conclude properly.

j.

Anonymous said...

Don't blame the writers if you're just too mentally challenged to understand JFC. It's a great, interesting, and unique show. I will be sad if it's truly "one and done".

Anonymous said...

I hope that this is not true. Despite what anyone says John from cincinnati is one of the greatest shows on TV. I think one reason people don't like it is because they don't like using their brains.

Anonymous said...

I'm a huge Milch fan.I think he is a genius,a flawed one, but a genius all the same. He writes about the raw side of life as it is in the real world. Even though I'm confused about JFC I have stuck out the first season because of Milch. He may have made a mistake on this show. I don't believe that it will garner a large audience. I'm from the generation that was big on western movies. I loved Deadwood and was hoping it would it get 60 episodes before it flamed out. It would be nice if Milch would write the 2 two hour movies that was talked about. Not every show appeals to everyone, JFC was some what off of the wall.
RBW,Houston,Texas

blueheaven said...

I don't believe a word of this, as most of the "insider news" on this blog is bull. Nice try, though.

Total Fark said...

I love this show and have been hooked from the onset. They just need to go somewhere with it. There's too much going on without explanation.

Ed O'Neil is freaking hilarious in this show as is Rebecca Demornay. I think I keep coming back to see what new innovative curse words they come up with.

Anonymous said...

Bring back Lucky Louie

Anonymous said...

Lucky Louie
Entourage
Deadwood
Oz
The Sopranos
John from Cincinnati
The Flight of the Concords

All of these shows are great. Not all of the watchers are. I will cancel my subscription to HBO if they cancel JFC. For those of you who want to let the idiots at HBO who think they know what we want know how you really feel click here;
http://www.hbo.com/apps/submitinfo/contactus/submit.do?title=Other%20Programming%20Information&questiontype;=general

Anonymous said...

All intellegent shows require time and thought to view them. JFC was not your usual TV simple-minded garbage. These types of shows require an investment of time (just like lost).

Its sad that HBO value a viewers investment so little. This was placed in the wrong time slot to begin with. If its canceled it will be another annoyance pushing me closer to SHO.

JFC-CANCELED ROME-CANCELED CARNIVALE-CANCELED DEADWOOD-CANCELED ALL WITH EXTREMELY LOYAL AND ANNOYED VIEWERS

NOT GOOD FOR HBO

Anonymous said...

It's one of the worst TV shows ever, created by far and away, the most overrated producer in the history of TV. Milch should be put out to pasture.

Anonymous said...

First off, why do JFC and Deadwood have to be mutually exclusive (other than Milch doing double duty). I am a fan of both.

I like shows that leave me scratching my head, although some shows do carry things on too long before answers start coming out (I got my eyes on you LOST).

At this point though, with Sopranos, Deadwood, Carnivale and Rome gone, if JFC goes also Big Love, boxing, and a lot of 10 year old movies is not going to keep me an HBO subscriber. That's OK, I like Weeds too. Showtime here I come.

Anonymous said...

gotta say, if JFC goes, i'll switch to showtime. weeds, dexter... they're just passing hbo.

big love is OK, and i'll miss entourage, but i'll get over it.

Anonymous said...

If this is true, there is justice in the universe...

Anonymous said...

I Enjoyed Deadwood and wished it didn't end. I also enjoy John from Cincinatti. I hope it doesn't end.

I think the writing in both is very good. The only problem I have is with Sissy Yost: Rebecca De Mornay. I get the impression she is trying to substitute acting skills with a constant annoying anger. Her character is overdone and her anger is entirely unrealistic of somebody who is on the "out" side of a mental institution.

To the guy or girl who went by "anonymous" who attacked Wayne (Writer)... well, your crazy and good luck with that.

Hopefully JFC doesn't end and they bring back Deadwood.

!

Anonymous said...

Deadwood Rules too bad they decided to kill it b4 it had run its course..and seing last episode lining up to elections/chinese/military and major troubles and then just quits that makes u wanna say 1 thing ...D´oH...

lamest ending ever or rather no ending...but hey HBO are fameous for cutting the good shows b4 time...
Carnivale´ anyone?
But hey we know they have to kill the good ones to secure funding to the BoB series part 2 due in 2009 (rumoured to have a cost between 100 million+ dollars and upwards

Anonymous said...

Am I the only one that likes this and Deadwood? Milch is a fucking genius. Just watching the extras on the Deadwood DVD you could tell this man is a TV God. Pouring over every single line until it's note perfect for the characters speaking them. In the hands of any other person I'd agree with some of this show's harshest critics, but Milch is at the wheel. Sit back and enjoy the ride. I just hope it's not over before we get there.

Anonymous said...

It's not TV; it's HBO

HBO needs to change their slogan. more than ever HBO. The network is becoming just like every other channel. Watered down and mass appeal over quality. We're just lucky that The Wire survived execution when it did, with this new regime it certainly would of been killed off before its time as well.

LemonJoose said...

I had to laugh when I read the comments by Deadwood fans complaining about how much swearing there is in John from Cincinnati. I have only watched about three Deadwood episodes and I thought there was more swearing in them than there is in JFC.

LemonJoose said...

Reading some of these comments by JFC haters really makes me sad for the state of humanity. Is there no room on television for a show that requires an attention span longer than one episode? Does every show on every network have to pander to the lowest common denominator? Do we as Americans have to have everything spelled out for us in real time because we can't stand the idea of not yet understanding, of being held in suspense?

Anonymous said...

If you do not like it, don't watch it. I am captivated by it. It is as unique of a show as I have ever seen and unfortunately shows like this get cancelled all of the time. I am not bitter that people prefer shows like everybody loves raymond and american idol, but it sucks that those thrive and original thought provoking shows get cancelled. I guarantee big brother 9 will be there next year for all of the haters of this show, so please quit badmouthing John.

Anonymous said...

I watched the whole season, hoping for some revelation, particularly one that would prove me wrong in my assumptions.

Instead, I fear this show is going nowhere fast, and that I already know where it would have inevitably headed anyway.

John's an Angel, his father is Jesus, *his* Father is GOD. The family are the disciples, and they have to prepare for Jesus' return...

Anonymous said...

either way, does it really matter? im pretty sure that ending confirms this article.

it was cool, i dug the ride, but for these holier than thou people that think they are so smart cause they watch john from cincinnati, why dont you read some of the wire articles instead. its way smarter than this show was.

Dorothy said...

I don’t think there has been a show that tripped my imagination like JFC since Twin Peaks. It’s a shame that shows that are well written and make you think end up like a discarded ball of slime filled bubblegum stuck on the third world sneakers of the in-bread middle American masses…. God help us, I’m going to have to go back to reading McDonalds wrappers for anything resembling intellectual entertainment. I hope the HBO fucktards who made the decision to cancel JFC do the big crash-n-burn for screwin’ the pooch here…..

Anonymous said...

Show was good but they definitely stretched the last episode so as to kill it off, in my opinion anyways. Seemed to rushed.

As for Rome not coming back, my friend told me that and I was hoping he was wrong. Fuck is all I have to say, fuck HBO for that and for probably canceling JFC. Fucking cocksuckers.

Anonymous said...

Oh they better put a season 2 out - finally a good show on TV with great characters and its going out?! I do hope it comes back.

nadum said...

anon,

The second season of Rome was its last.

Anonymous said...

I feel bad for those of you who don't understand John, as it speaks much more about you than the show itself. But then again, we are in Iraq because of the American populace's inability to think clearly or independently, so maybe we are all fucked regardless.

Anonymous said...

I feel bad for those of you who don't understand John, as it speaks much more about you than the show itself. But then again, we are in Iraq because of the American populace's inability to think clearly or independently, so maybe we are all fucked regardless.

If you want to feel bad for people that don't understand JFC it should be because our drugs obviously aren't as good.

Anonymous said...

JFC was a huge disappointment. I watched every episode hoping for something more substantial than a fortune cookie ending that left the interpretation up to the viewer. I am getting bored with these self indulgent, rtf hacks that feel the need to masturbate all over their multi million dollar budgets to shove a point of view down my throat. For what it's worth, I commend Milch for his attempt to create a series that is thought provoking and engaging, however you shouldn't start something that you can't finish. The first 3 episodes of JFC were very promising. The entire premise sucker punched me into giving a shit about who these characters were, and what the hell was going on. As the series dragged on, the episodes became less interesting and annoying. Instead of tying up loose ends, more characters were introduced with more loose ends, that never got tied up. The dialouge was limp and forced, more than likely a product of bad improvisation. The biggest blow to the series though was that it never lived up to its own expectations. For all of its bloated pragmatic dialouge, theological implications, and catastrophic cliff hangers, the only thing JFC delivered was a sad commentary on literal interpretation. Milch should stick to cops and cowboys if this is the dribble he's going to produce. I'm gonna go watch Twin Peaks. Milch, if you're planning on doing JFC season 2, you should really do the same.

Anonymous said...

What is wrong with you people. Don't you like to think or are you so accustomed to being force fed entertainment that when something truly revolutionary and thought provoking comes along like JFC you don't get it? Come on JFC is some of the best television I've ever seen.

Anonymous said...

Here's a tip that will help you in all facets of your life. If the core argument for something being good is "they just don't get it", then it sucks. I know you think you have some inside information the rest of us are missing out on. I understand that you think you have seen behind the curtain, while the rest of us are still trying to figure out how the trick. I know you have references, you've read books, and you have obtained universal knowledge either directly or vicariously that has opened your eyes while the rest of us monkeys are still tossing shit at each other, trying to become self aware. Let me let you in on a little secret. We get it. We just don't give a shit.

Anonymous said...

It's one thing to not care and a whole different one to not care because you have to think. There is no inside info and from what I've read no one really has JFC figured out. That is one of the brilliant things about JFC it is somewhat ambigious, sort of like art, it is in the eye of the beholder. The only one with a true leg up is the creator or artist. Good artists love to play with thier audience a bit...I could go on but it is really not neccessary. In the end JFC is a show that is great entertainment but if it doesn't have the audience its gone that's business. The real shame is that because it's cancelled people will assume it's not good. I'm sure monkeys would be more entertained by Survivor than JFC.

Anonymous said...

On the serious, how strong of acid do you have to take to come remotely close to understand JFC?

Anonymous said...

typical rhetoric from pretentious pseudo intellectual socialites. here's another tip. never premise an argument on an assumption. assuming people don't care because they don't like to think is illogical and makes you look like an asshole. nobody has figured out jfc because there is nothing to figure out. the entire show was a pragmatic exercise. there is absolutely nothing brilliant about it. it was a complete cop out. anybody who cared enough, and had a few million extra dollars could put together nine slick looking episodes of nonsense, and then attribute audience dissatisfaction to a lack of understanding. everything is up for interpretation. a card board box can be interpreted as the vast emptiness in the souls of a closed society, but that does not make it great "art". modern art is the byproduct of lazy egotists who can't come up with an original idea on their own, so they leave it up for "interpretation".

Jonathan said...

Anonymous seems to be personally offended by the show and people that claim to have liked it. Why else would he come here and insult the people who did like it?

Sorry it didn't get wrapped up in a tidy little box and bow for you. Yes, it's more of a Pollack than a Rembrandt. Some of us prefer that.

Anonymous said...

the only thing i am offended by is the assumption that people who didn't like it, didn't "get" it. personally, i could careless if you liked it or not. i wasn't looking for the show to be wrapped up in a "tiny little bow". i would have been just as disappointed in the show if it would have ended with jesus coming back and the world ending as john repeated, "i don't know butchie instead". i was hoping for something more original and interesting than open ended generalizations about the fate of the characters. i guess what i'm trying to say is that pollock was shit and so was this show.

Jonathan said...

Denying that Pollack was a talented and important artist proves your lack of credibility. You don't have to like his work, but you can't call him "shit" and sound like you know what you're talking about. I gather that you don't like abstract anything, but don't get offended that some people do like those things. And it's not necessarily pretentious.

Anonymous said...

what makes you think that pollock was a talented and important artist? you can't even spell his name. just because you might have seen his art work in your doctor's office or read his name in a magazine doesn't mean he was talented. accessibility does not equal talent or qualify importance. chances are the most talented artists of all time have died alone and nameless. i have no obligation to give anybody credit or praise just because they have been embraced by popular culture. abstract is a state of mind. what i find abstract is your reasoning.

Sasha from Russia said...

Hey, we understand, you "got" the show but you didn't like it. “Well, pin a rose on your donkey nose.”
As for me, yes I loved it! To paraphrase Ed O’Neil’s character, I’m feeling a real…genuine warm feeling. Strangely at the end of the season and possibly the series itself I don't suffer, or feel crushed or "dope-sick" as I felt after my other favorites like Deep Space 9 and Babylon 5 ended their run. These were wonderful 10 weeks of my life, every week watching reruns, reading transcripts, combing forums for tiny precious bits of knowledge, putting it all together and marveling at the beauty and complexity of the puzzle, wondering about the next week, the next step.
And yes, it may be argued that those who try to defend “JFC”, those who don’t mind doing some work just to make sense of it have no life. But you know what? Fuck your notion of having a life, I am sticking with mine.

nadum said...

I'm just curious. For all of those you that defend 'John From Cincinnati,' what was it about?

I hear that you enjoyed it, that those who didn't are unintelligent, but I haven't seen a one of you explain what the point was.

Or do you just enjoy watching shows that you do not understand?

By all means if you can make me understand, it'll make the front page.

Glosson said...

I LOVED Deadwood. I was disappointed that it was taken off w/o resolution. I was excited and interested in JFC. I watched the first episode and was underwhelmed. I thought...well, it's character development, so I'll keep watching. It will grow on me. I watched 4 more episodes and found myself uninterested and not caring about any of the characters. I only liked Ed O'Neil's character at all, but had no interest in the rest. Love Milch, love Deadwood...left cold by JFC. Hope his next project is good whatever it is.

zapnap said...

Man I would be super bummed if they can this show. Best thing on TV today imo. C'mon HBO, give it another season.

Butta said...

I for one, am VERY disappointed in HBO as a result of this. i get how some people didn't take the time to watch this show. IT'S IN THE SOPRANOS OLD TIME SLOT!!!!! that was their FIRST mistake. but the biggest mistake, is not giving this show a chance to find it's audience. ONE SEASON? actually, that should be TEN EPISODES???? no show these days (even if you started the almighty Sopranos over again with a different cast or something) would find it's audience in TEN EPISODES. i for one loved this show, and have been turning friends onto it as well. i'll miss the discussions it sparked. "is John an alien?" "is John Jesus?" we'll never know.

and please stop with the "well, they cancelled JFC, so bring Deadwood back." i loved Deadwood too, but they're NOT going to do that. get over it.

Anonymous said...

I watched every show....love surf culture and philosophy....have a Masters Degree....have studied literature.....but still could not tell you WTF that show was about.....complete Bullshit--possibly drug addled and certainly unresolved....amateurish and confused, but hey if that is you bag....maybe USA will pick it up....Laterz

Anonymous said...

This was one of the only shows on television that I actually got hooked on. I love these types of shows that keep you guessing. I will be very upset if this truly is the end of JFC. I thought it was a great show from all aspects. It was definitely a brain buster which is probably why HBO cancelled it. Because there are too many people who watch TV and are too lazy to use their brains every once in a while. Anyways, I hope this rumor is false and that JFC can continue its outstanding series for a couple more series.

Anonymous said...

Thank God Anonymous set me straight. As one of JFC's writers, I've been bumbling through life in the mistaken belief that "I'm worldly and intelligent." Now I guess I know better!

Too bad you can only muster a sarcastic response instead of, you know, actually providing a real counter-argument to the criticism.

Again, just because something is abstract doesn't make it intelligent. I can paint a blue dot, call it art, and self-indulgent people can pontificate to no end about its meaning, but that doesn't change the fact that it's just a blue dot. True art communicates the artist's meaning. You don't read a truly great novel or look at a truly great painting and say "WTF was that about?" when you're done.

What was the meaning of JFC, what, if anything, was it really trying to say? If your answer is something along the lines of "it has a different meaning for everyone", that's just another way of saying it has no meaning. So congratulations on making your blue dot, you apparently believe that makes you smart, but actually saying something is much more difficult than saying nothing.

nadum said...

Best comment I've read so far. Anytime you can use the word pontificate, you know you're sitting on gold.

Too bad you can only muster a sarcastic response instead of, you know, actually providing a real counter-argument to the criticism.

Again, just because something is abstract doesn't make it intelligent. I can paint a blue dot, call it art, and self-indulgent people can pontificate to no end about its meaning, but that doesn't change the fact that it's just a blue dot. True art communicates the artist's meaning. You don't read a truly great novel or look at a truly great painting and say "WTF was that about?" when you're done.

What was the meaning of JFC, what, if anything, was it really trying to say? If your answer is something along the lines of "it has a different meaning for everyone", that's just another way of saying it has no meaning. So congratulations on making your blue dot, you apparently believe that makes you smart, but actually saying something is much more difficult than saying nothing.

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Anonymous said...

The person that posted the comment about how people that percieve this show differently shows that the show has no meaning. Obviously this person isnt the "brightest crayon in the box". Thats what makes this show so great. Its all about your personal reaction to the show. JFC can be percieved in many different ways. Its how you the viewer wants to percieve it. People may think that John is an alien and others may think that John has some relation to God. That is what makes this show such a great work of art. This show may be abstract but it is still intelligent. And people keep saying "Oh i bet the viewers couldnt even tell you what this show is about." Well its about a family that is basically an inch from falling apart and a man shows up at their doorstep for no reason. And the entire season relates to how their lives change from this one person and how they had lost fear of the things they feared most in life. Boochie is no longer a drug addict, the millionare that bought the hotel is no longer afraid of whats inside of it, Sissy is no longer keeping a stranglehold on Sean, Link dropped out of his buisiness, and Mitch got sponsored even though he hated sponsorships, and the Hawaiian stopped selling drugs. And John was the reason that all of this happened. He helped everyone in relation to the Yosts get back onto their feet. And how I look at it John is an angel sent by God to do this. That is why this show is great. That is just my opinion and people may see it differently. So whoever said that it having a different meanings for everyone means it has no meaning is definitely wrong. Thats just the way literature and writing works. Nothing is wrong or right.

Anonymous said...

Its just the way you percieve it

Mirna said...

I really enjoyed watching the show! Yes I know it was a little bizarre but very entertaining! I loved the whole cast and tuned in every week...so sad:(

Anonymous said...

JFC is a program requires viewer to think maybe this is the problem. Television viewers today need to have programs that allow them to vegetate and not use the imagination they were born with. In this world of instant gratification, it is no wonder that mind numbing TV is the norm. I guess the viewing public today only wants a book that explains everything in the first six pages. Of course, this is taking for granted that these individuals read.

michael said...

i really liked john from cincinnati :(

Wayne said...

Sigh . . .

In reply to "Anonymous," it ain't my responsibility to offer counter-arguments to criticisms of "John From Cincinnati."

The show's been canceled, some people liked it, some didn't. Many readers prefer Harry Potter to Vladimir and Estragon.

I remain proud of my association with the show.

Anonymous said...

I guess some of these people don't remember a little show from the 80s called "Twin Peaks" ... not everything on TV goes down easy.
JFC was worth the effort. So sad.

nadum said...

Wayne,

If you'd like a chance to voice your thoughts outside of the comments area, feel free to shoot me an email and I'll post it up.

Anonymous said...

I absolutley loved the first four or five episodes of JFC. After that point, although I was still hooked (and enjoying it), I did find myself waiting for a payoff of some sort, and the so called "finale" seemed to have a contrived transperancy that clashed with what had been put on the table in the previous episodes. The mystery surrounding John's character (and many other facets) was what made me love the show but the masses have spoken. Could we compromise and agree that a little more clarity and advancement of story in the middle episodes wouldn't have hurt the show's chance of survival? I am reminded of another fresh and unique show that the public just couldn't get on board with... Arrested Development.

Anonymous said...

Good luck Wayne,
I for one enjoyed your work, and although frustrated by JFC's cancellation I still feel that it may have broken some ground... John would not be the first show to develop a following after being cancelled (see arrested development, now very successful in syndication). And it wouldn't be the first to come back from the dead... wishful thinking I know but it worked for family guy (that was me that got that one back on the air... you're welcome).

Anonymous said...

Listen anyone that could actually sit there and say that this show had nothing going for it, has to be devoid of any intellectual or spiritual capacity. This show was one of the most thought provoking series I have ever had the pleasure of watching. I'm so sick and tired of the general population, which mostly consists of moronic Americans, dictating what is actually entertaining. WWE? American Idol? TV is filled with reality garbage on every channel. Its sad that people need to have everything spelled out for them in order for comprehension to actually occur. Do us all a favor and go watch AMERICA'S GOT TALENT and just SHUT THE FUCK UP!

Dave Hunter said...

"True art communicates the artist's meaning."

Imagine some index of all the works of "true" art, listed next to their singular meanings. Imagine the person who owns that book and consults it as a way of resolving arguments.

Anonymous said...

Too many of the shows on tv today reflect the DUMBING DOWN OF AMERICA we are currently experiencing. With all the mindless crap on tv these days, it was refreshing to watch something that provoked thought like JFC did. The acting and story line were great, and I couldn't wait to watch the new episode each week. I'm really disappointed HBO cancelled yet ANOTHER great show - I think it's time to cancel our HBO subscription.

Anonymous said...

THANK YOU SO MUCH HBO FOR CANCELLING A SHOW THAT JUST CONFUSED MOST PEOPLE!!!
Its really sad that with a talented cast (except for the kid) that the show couldnt have been better. Me personally would have just liked to see a show about a dysfunctional sufer family minus the religious bullshit. If the show took John out and made it about the family and Mitches fight with heroin and his ex that is the porn star it might have made it. But you had to throw all that hippie gayness in it. Also, the kid needed to be replaced. I have piece of wood that that has more personality. Anyway... Hopefully HBO will go back to making great shows like The Sopranos and Sex and the City.

Anonymous said...

If HBO won't pick up season 2, how about Showtime? I can't see JFC on network cable (USA, TNT, TBS, ect).
If it weren't for The Wire, HBO would be long gone from my house. If they cancel The Wire, it is out of here!!!! And I will contact them directly somehow and explain why.

Anonymous said...

I have been just racking my brain because HBO is trying to kill the best series (IMO) it has ever published! My entire family as well as my law firm have just gone crazy over JFC. HBO has published a survey and we can all hope that it is to see whether they will continue the series or not. Please take it and give them the feed back to continue JFC.

http://www.hbosurveys.com/surveys/hboj_0807.htm

Anonymous said...

Hands down the worst acting I ever witnessed on HBO. Sadly, I don't doubt the series could have survived had they hired actors who could surf instead of surfers that couldn't act.

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